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>> but they are not the abusers, they are the enablers and the abusers are john mccain and people who don't want -- it sounds like rhetoric, literally don't want the post filled at the pentagon because of their grudges. >> julian, the senate will take up mr. hagel's nomination when it reconvenes in ten days atime but i want to bring in something from richard hass. here he is with our own joe scarborough. >> we're hearing in the end most likely he's going to pass and be secretary of defense, so why hold him up over a recess when the pentagon desperately needs somebody at the helm? >> because in a funny sort of way, joe, it's exactly what mccain said. it's a way of getting their pound of flesh. >> julian, pound of flesh. is that really what this is all about? given that our troops deserve a leader because they serve with every ounce of their bodies, they give their bodies. >> well, i don't know that they will get a pound of flesh and it is a rizable reason. politics is about picking good fights. this is a fight the republicans will lose and it's a bad fight and you wonder why after what
>> but they are not the abusers, they are the enablers and the abusers are john mccain and people who don't want -- it sounds like rhetoric, literally don't want the post filled at the pentagon because of their grudges. >> julian, the senate will take up mr. hagel's nomination when it reconvenes in ten days atime but i want to bring in something from richard hass. here he is with our own joe scarborough. >> we're hearing in the end most likely he's going to pass and be...
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she was standing about three feet away from lindsey graham and john mccain two of the people who were hardest on her for the benghazi matter. we didn't see any interchange at all. usually they studiously ignore each other. >> i did john mccain and lindsey graham hug in an almost unseemly fashion. leon panetta the out going secretary of defense. they have been two of the most critical of the nominee to be his successor, chuck hagel. it is date night too. i want to point out that. the democratic senator from colorado two years ago proposed, judy, that members instead of just democrats sitting with democrats and republicans... this year i think he's doing it with the republican senator from alaska, that peoplec with people from the other party and across the aisle. several members have done it. i think mccain and gram seem to be a couple of them. >> they share the popcorn. woodruff: that's a tradition they started a few years ago. a a number of members picked it up. it seemed to fade. >> it was done right after the gabrielle giffords. >> woodruff: she's here tonight. i don't think we've
she was standing about three feet away from lindsey graham and john mccain two of the people who were hardest on her for the benghazi matter. we didn't see any interchange at all. usually they studiously ignore each other. >> i did john mccain and lindsey graham hug in an almost unseemly fashion. leon panetta the out going secretary of defense. they have been two of the most critical of the nominee to be his successor, chuck hagel. it is date night too. i want to point out that. the...
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john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know about benghazi? nothing. he had nothing to do with it. but lindsey graham is filibustering his nomination over it anyway. since chuck hagel had nothing to do with it substantively, why block his nomination instead of, say, the john kerry nomination which sailed through the senate? don't know. why not? wrecking stuff is fun, maybe? hulk smash. the guy who the republicans waited to spring this on for the first time in our nation's history to break all precedent is a former republican senator from a red state, a decorated and wounded combat veteran nominat
john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know...
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in 2008 john mccain swept every county. in 2004 george bush swept every county. oklahoma is the reddest place we've got in america. and republicans, you may have heard, like to think that they do not think much of the policy ideas of barack obama. which is why it was so interesting to hear the two states that president obama mentioned as models when he announced his state of the union plan for preschool. >> tonight i propose working with states to make high-quality preschool available to every single child in america. [ applause ] in states that make it a priority to educate our youngest children, like georgia or oklahoma, studies show students grow up more likely to read and do math at grade level, graduate high school, hold a job, form more stable families of their own. >> president obama took that proposal on the road, visiting a prek class, pre-kindergarten class in decatur, georgia. he played a game of i spy with the kids there and noticed the magnifying class glancy drew style. he had phonics. he did the kinds of things you do in pre-k if you have pre-k whe
in 2008 john mccain swept every county. in 2004 george bush swept every county. oklahoma is the reddest place we've got in america. and republicans, you may have heard, like to think that they do not think much of the policy ideas of barack obama. which is why it was so interesting to hear the two states that president obama mentioned as models when he announced his state of the union plan for preschool. >> tonight i propose working with states to make high-quality preschool available to...
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john mccain said that chuck hagel would be a great member of cabinet. he spoke of chuck hagel as a tremendous secretary of state. >> political betrayal is a worse sin than being a member of the opposing party, so you have john mccain in the hearing really going after chuck hagel, especially after iraq and the sunshine. but then you have a committee hearing and the new senator from texas, cruz, goes after chuck hagel where then john mccain defends him. it's baffling, it's like we're in a sort of upside down tonka toy world. >> we saw with his nomination something truly extraordinary which is the government of iran formally and publicly praising the nomination of a defense secretary. >> senator hagel is an honorable man, he has served his country and no one on this committee at any time should impugn his character or his integrity. >> john mccain or roy blount are critical here if they don't participate in this filibuster, it seems as though he will move ahead. what's changed from when john mccain thought that chuck hagel was worthy of a nomination until
john mccain said that chuck hagel would be a great member of cabinet. he spoke of chuck hagel as a tremendous secretary of state. >> political betrayal is a worse sin than being a member of the opposing party, so you have john mccain in the hearing really going after chuck hagel, especially after iraq and the sunshine. but then you have a committee hearing and the new senator from texas, cruz, goes after chuck hagel where then john mccain defends him. it's baffling, it's like we're in a...
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remember, john mccain was the guy who negotiated that deal to stop the nuclear option before? remember, he was the one that stood in the way of the very idea of filibustering cabinet nominees, and now he has gone off the reservation. i think this is as much a bad precedent, it makes the senate like the house. >> that is a terrifying concept for anybody that wants to see anything happen in washington. i want to talk about the other nominees that are being held up. some perhaps for more legitimate reasons. john brennan is -- the committee vote on john brennan as cia director is going to be held in the last week of february. dianne feinstein says they are awaiting more drone memos from the white house. ran paul is leading the charge on this. he says i'm going to object in any way we can until we find out whether or not the head of the cia claims the authority to kill americans without a trial with a drone in america. >> which is an amazing thing for a conservative republican senator to be saying. to making an unimaginably soft on military power left wing argument against john bre
remember, john mccain was the guy who negotiated that deal to stop the nuclear option before? remember, he was the one that stood in the way of the very idea of filibustering cabinet nominees, and now he has gone off the reservation. i think this is as much a bad precedent, it makes the senate like the house. >> that is a terrifying concept for anybody that wants to see anything happen in washington. i want to talk about the other nominees that are being held up. some perhaps for more...
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john mccain, by the way, broke his own rule and own supposed rule of not using filibuster on cabinet nominees. he's broken with the rule to stand with his sidekick, lindsey graham, afraid of a primary challenge, worried about his re-election in 2014. the only reason i can think of to delay this then guys when they said it's a fore gone, they, themselves are going to vote for cloture, is a fishing exhibition. what to they think they'll find in ten days? use it for ten more days of excruciating irrelevant argument about benghazi, something over which chuck hagel had nothing, no oversight, nothing to do with? it's irrelevant to his nomination. >> chris, it sounds like for mccain and graham, they want to drag it out. they don't even sound like they're looking for some smoking gun. >> i think one of the most important things for people, you know this better than i, one of the most important things for people to understand about the way the senate works and the filibuster works is that one way to look at a congress, a senate, 113th, is as a finite amount of legislating hours. let's say 5,0
john mccain, by the way, broke his own rule and own supposed rule of not using filibuster on cabinet nominees. he's broken with the rule to stand with his sidekick, lindsey graham, afraid of a primary challenge, worried about his re-election in 2014. the only reason i can think of to delay this then guys when they said it's a fore gone, they, themselves are going to vote for cloture, is a fishing exhibition. what to they think they'll find in ten days? use it for ten more days of excruciating...
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so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an -- would put together a budget like this. a speech about all his years in the senate through all the heated debates no one had ever called him that. another man might have taken a moment to check his temper, but mccain went on, i wouldn't call you that unless you really were that. >> you can disagree, but if you're disagreeable, then people don't forget that. >> ah, the arbiter of disagreeable. it is rich to hear that as the supposed criticism of chuck hagel coming from john mccain. but honestly, it's not just john mccain's personal hypocrisy here. this is a wash
so says john mccain. quote, in a heated dispute over immigration law overhaul, mccain screamed f you at john cornyn who had been raising concerns about the legislation. this is chicken -- stuff, mccain snapped at cornyn. are you calling me stupid chuck grassley once said? no, replied senator mccain. i'm calling you an -- jerk. at a gop meeting last fall, mccain erupted out of the blue at the respected budget chairman pete domenici, quote, only an -- would put together a budget like this. a...
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it sounds like john mccain and some others given to next week will do it. in a larger picture we're talking about perhaps a week and then hagel will continue on as before. that doesn't mean it's a good thing that there's been a filibuster of a national security cabinet appointee for the first time in the nation's history and i think this is the only third filibuster of any cabinet appointee in history. so it's an extraordinary thing, completely unnecessary, and we can continue on with our regularly scheduled governmental programming next week. >> yes. congratulations to the republicans. john, senator ted cruz's assertions have been the most spurious and destructive. this suggestion that chuck hagel may have taken money from terrorist organizations, from the iranians, from somebody that is an opponent of this nation. your reaction to that because senator ben nelson called it rightly when he said it was unpatriotic. they're dressing this guy up in smears and slurs. >> it's interesting to contrast somebody like senator ted cruz from texas with another freshman
it sounds like john mccain and some others given to next week will do it. in a larger picture we're talking about perhaps a week and then hagel will continue on as before. that doesn't mean it's a good thing that there's been a filibuster of a national security cabinet appointee for the first time in the nation's history and i think this is the only third filibuster of any cabinet appointee in history. so it's an extraordinary thing, completely unnecessary, and we can continue on with our...
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senator john mccain is why we brought that up, senator. he suggested yesterday that the hagel block runs deeper and he actually was bringing up the past, and we can play a bit of that sound. why don't we? >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican he attacked president bush mercilessly and at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was very anti his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> you may not agree with what senator mccain said there, but that's basically what appears to be a grudge match, and that's why we said grudge match with a question mark. when you listen to senator mccain, is he wrong? do you agree with him? >> well, actually, i agree with senator mccain that chuck hagel is not the right guy. i also agree with the washington post who said around the first of the year mr. president, don't pick chuck hagel. he is not the right guy for d.o.d. he is well to the left
senator john mccain is why we brought that up, senator. he suggested yesterday that the hagel block runs deeper and he actually was bringing up the past, and we can play a bit of that sound. why don't we? >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican he attacked president bush mercilessly and at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was...
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when john mccain ran for president, of course, at one point in time chuck hagel and john mccain were the same kind of couple around here that lindsey graham and john mccain are. >> good amigos. >> very close. good friends. >> let's look now at a comment made by your former colleague, richard lugar of indiana. he had this to say about why republicans are obstructing hagel's nomination. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican who has questioned policies that are sacred among most conservative senators. the intensity of opposition that the senator is encountering is grounded in the resentments of some conservatives inside and outside the senate who regard his independent thinking as political blasphemy for which he should not be rewarded. >> senator, you know the senate now. this is your second term. can you read it? is there going to be a vote to try to get cloture to end this filibuster when you come back on monday after this monday? >> well, that's what's so sad about this game. everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, t
when john mccain ran for president, of course, at one point in time chuck hagel and john mccain were the same kind of couple around here that lindsey graham and john mccain are. >> good amigos. >> very close. good friends. >> let's look now at a comment made by your former colleague, richard lugar of indiana. he had this to say about why republicans are obstructing hagel's nomination. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican who has questioned...
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senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane said this of the man in 2006. i would be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. people have also not forgotten that this filibuster has nothing to do with chuck hagel and everything to do with a republican vendetta against the white house. >> all three of us said we're not going to go forward on the hagel nomination until they testify about what happened in benghazi. >> and while republicans now say this latest delay will give them enough time to decide about hagel, they continue to leave the door open to unspecified shan an begans. >> i'm confident in the next week, un
senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane...
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especially when we talk about chuck hagel because basically john mccain gave john kerry a piggy back ride to his hearing. he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of these nominations they're trying to basically make headlines over. and that's just fundamentally wrong. and i would advise republicans to remember, eventually they're going to get the white house back and they're not going to want to have this on the other side. they should treat all the nominees with the proper respect. they can question it and vote against them, but don't do this filibuster thing. >> is getting 60 votes in the senate going to be the standard moving forward? >> i don't think it will. you are seeing a movement to get away from that. they're not going to fundamentally filibuster, they'
especially when we talk about chuck hagel because basically john mccain gave john kerry a piggy back ride to his hearing. he was the biggest obstacle in the hagel hearing. and john kerry voted against the iraq surge too just like hagel did. what's the difference? >> it's not hagel's a republican or democrat, it shouldn't matter, he's the president's choice. this is not supposed to be a witch hunt, which is what republicans currently are making the nomination about. the problem is all of...
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they will see folks on tv sitting forward and hunched over and john mccain had horrible body language, one of the reasons he lost. he always looked like he was either on the attack or about to get a tax and there was no in-between and part of that was because of his injury and part of that is sort of coo john mccain is as a human being. we need to work on image, it matters. my last is about tv, the left understand this, they understand it standards and understand what people see is what they believe. this is what the left when the divorce your reason we would never lose an election. as it is it is astonishing to me we are with elections as bad as this stuff is as we are at this stuff. those are kind of the ten points. to recap quickly frame your opponent, frame the debate, such up all the philosophical inconsistencies with your opponent's positions and exploit them. force them to defend the point they say they defend. because there's not a leftist alive in government who is going to tell you the truth about what they really believe. dianne feinstein doesn't want to take for some of yo
they will see folks on tv sitting forward and hunched over and john mccain had horrible body language, one of the reasons he lost. he always looked like he was either on the attack or about to get a tax and there was no in-between and part of that was because of his injury and part of that is sort of coo john mccain is as a human being. we need to work on image, it matters. my last is about tv, the left understand this, they understand it standards and understand what people see is what they...
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i understand john mccain making a point. he also said that chuck hagel was friend of his and i thought, boy, with friends like that. but i think if you're outside of washington, you have to say, what are these guys and girls doing? we're going to have an acting secretary of defense. we've got a foregone conclusion, and maybe they should stop playing these procedural games and just do the vote. >> that's interesting about the vote. i remember john powers, they within through him and he was turned down. >> he got the vote. >> got it. right you are. there is a graphic here. shows these delays and these procedures have skyrocketed. look at that. straight right up the past few years. why do you think that? you're a veteran of washington. is it partisanship? what are these guys thinks about when this comes to the floor and they try to stop all this? >> i think it's partisanship run amuck. i'm old enough to remember and i worked in the senate some years ago, when we actually worked together and, you know, strom thurman was the rank
i understand john mccain making a point. he also said that chuck hagel was friend of his and i thought, boy, with friends like that. but i think if you're outside of washington, you have to say, what are these guys and girls doing? we're going to have an acting secretary of defense. we've got a foregone conclusion, and maybe they should stop playing these procedural games and just do the vote. >> that's interesting about the vote. i remember john powers, they within through him and he was...
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you heard it with john mccain. this is about the inside the beltway chamber -- where words ricochet back and forth. they listen to themselves. they're playing a game where harry reid against mitch mcconnell. the chess game continues unabated. harry reid could have broken the game over. >> john: mccain was candid saying we're punishing this guy for going against the bush administration. >> that's what they call gaffe in washington where you tell the truth and reveal what people are really thinking because what chuck hagel had done while bush was president was tell the truth. you can debate the surge and military issue aside but calling george bush the worst president since herbert hoover, 80% of the public at some point would have agreed with that. president obama's entitled to his secretary of defense. game over. >> john: it's incredibly historic. never happened before. what does this say about the likelihood of pushing any kind of legislation through the house or senate? >> if you go back to the state of the union
you heard it with john mccain. this is about the inside the beltway chamber -- where words ricochet back and forth. they listen to themselves. they're playing a game where harry reid against mitch mcconnell. the chess game continues unabated. harry reid could have broken the game over. >> john: mccain was candid saying we're punishing this guy for going against the bush administration. >> that's what they call gaffe in washington where you tell the truth and reveal what people are...
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john mccain had a press conference earlier today and said he's going to continue asking questions about who knew what, when on benghazi. and those questions will go to john brennan. >> a major setback for the obama administration. chuck hagel still has not been confirmed. they are going to have to wait several more days. we'll see what happens in these days to follow. thanks very much, gloria and dana. let's get back to the other breaking news story we're following. right now we're getting our first look at the unimaginable conditions aboard the stricten cruise ship. it's crawling at a very slow pace. it's being towed by tugboats. the ship is close to land and passengers can send pictures and what a disturbing sight some of these conditions, conditions inside the ship described by some is put trid. at least that's the word that one passenger put out. public areas fouled by raw sewage, people forced to use plastic bags instead of toilets. and take a look at this. our helicopter captured passengers lying on the deck spelling out the world help. the "triumph" is still estimated to be at le
john mccain had a press conference earlier today and said he's going to continue asking questions about who knew what, when on benghazi. and those questions will go to john brennan. >> a major setback for the obama administration. chuck hagel still has not been confirmed. they are going to have to wait several more days. we'll see what happens in these days to follow. thanks very much, gloria and dana. let's get back to the other breaking news story we're following. right now we're...
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mccain and joe lieberman worked on together a few years ago. but if congress won't act soon to protect future generations, i will. [applause] i will direct my cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy. four years ago, other countries dominated the clean energy market and the jobs that came with it. we've begun to change that. last year, wind energy added nearly half of all new power capacity in america. so let's generate even more. solar energy gets cheaper by the year -- so let's drive costs down even further. as long as countries like china keep going all-in on clean energy, so must we. in the meantime, the natural gas boom has led to cleaner power and greater energy independence. that's why my administration will keep cutting red tape and speeding up new oil and gas permits. [applause] but i also want to work with this congress to encourage the research and tec
mccain and joe lieberman worked on together a few years ago. but if congress won't act soon to protect future generations, i will. [applause] i will direct my cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take, now and in the future, to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy. four years ago, other countries dominated the clean energy market and the jobs that came with it. we've begun to...
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so what john mccain said is very qualified. you put that on top of the fact that chuck hagel has said things over the past five, six, seven years that does place him outside the mainstream of american political thought when it comes to foreign policy. i think that's fair too. so i think that's what the senate is supposed to do. they're supposed to advise and consent. i think john mccain is doing it exactly like he should do it. he has problems with it, but he's going to let the president put his person in charge. i thought mccain was very fair there. mark? you take some of the things he said in the past, they're pretty bad, but he circled back. he's talked to lindsey. he's assured some other people that those are not his positions today. >> senator hagel has really big shoes to fill. the president's first two defense secretaries, fantastic. worked well with the hill, worked well with the pentagon. i think senator mccain, unlike some of the other critics that chuck hagel, has focused on the things where there really are question
so what john mccain said is very qualified. you put that on top of the fact that chuck hagel has said things over the past five, six, seven years that does place him outside the mainstream of american political thought when it comes to foreign policy. i think that's fair too. so i think that's what the senate is supposed to do. they're supposed to advise and consent. i think john mccain is doing it exactly like he should do it. he has problems with it, but he's going to let the president put...
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she was standing about three feet away from lindsey graham and john mccain two of the people who were hardest on her for the benghazi matter. we didn't see any interchange at all. usually they studiously ignore each other. >> i did john mccain and lindsey graham hug in an almost unseemly fashion. leon panetta the out going secretary of defense. they have been two of the most critical of the nominee to be his successor, chuck hagel. it is date night too. i want to point out that. the democratic senator from colorado two years ago proposed, judy, that members instead of just democrats sitting with democrats and republicans... this year i think he's doing it with the republican senator from alaska, that peoplec with people from the other party and across the aisle. several members have done it. i think mccain and gram seem to be a couple of them. >> they share the popcorn. woodruff: that's a tradition they started a few years ago. a a number of members picked it up. it seemed to fade. >> it was done right after the gabrielle giffords. >> woodruff: she's here tonight. i don't think we've
she was standing about three feet away from lindsey graham and john mccain two of the people who were hardest on her for the benghazi matter. we didn't see any interchange at all. usually they studiously ignore each other. >> i did john mccain and lindsey graham hug in an almost unseemly fashion. leon panetta the out going secretary of defense. they have been two of the most critical of the nominee to be his successor, chuck hagel. it is date night too. i want to point out that. the...
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also, john mccain's changing his tune. we praised him yesterday. so he had to reverse course, i guess. so now he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because those latin americans are coming to america, and they're going to kill you people. this is who a lot of republicans in congress are thinking about falling off -- don't do it. don't hurt our party anymore. let wayne lapierre go wherever he wants to go. he's going to destroy the party. we're going to talk about the crazy op-ed has horrible for our party's image, horrible for the conservative movement's image, goes against everything ronald reagan stood for. we'll talk about that in a minute. first, breaking news. this is bizarre. the feel-good story of the olymp
also, john mccain's changing his tune. we praised him yesterday. so he had to reverse course, i guess. so now he's talking about possibly delaying chuck hagel's nomination. and also wayne lapierre. this is very important. because if you look at the profiles of all the people that committed these mass murders in newtown and aurora and across -- virginia tech, they are all hispanic drug gang leaders. and that's exactly what wayne lapierre said in an op-ed that americans need to buy guns because...